Language/French/Grammar/Problems-with-passive-different-direct-objects - Revision history

Maintenance script: Quick edit

2023-03-27T12:00:15Z

Quick edit

← Older revision		Revision as of 14:00, 27 March 2023
Line 1:		Line 1:
	[[File:French-Language-PolyglotClub.png\|thumb]]		[[File:French-Language-PolyglotClub.png\|thumb]]

	<div ~~style~~="~~font-size:200%~~">Issues in [[Language/French/Grammar/Active-Voice-and-Passive-Voice\|Passive Voice]] resulting from different types of [[Language/French/Grammar/Direct-Object-Complement\|direct objects]]</div>		<div class="pg_page_title">Issues in [[Language/French/Grammar/Active-Voice-and-Passive-Voice\|Passive Voice]] resulting from different types of [[Language/French/Grammar/Direct-Object-Complement\|direct objects]]</div>
	__TOC__		__TOC__

	[CHANGED]		[CHANGED]



	==Definitions Reminders==		==Definitions Reminders==
Line 45:		Line 43:
	Usually, verbs in the passive voice that make a direct inanimate object a subject and place an animated subject in sentence with "'''par'''" or "'''de'''" are not natural.		Usually, verbs in the passive voice that make a direct inanimate object a subject and place an animated subject in sentence with "'''par'''" or "'''de'''" are not natural.
	* NB: The verb "avoir" is used in the passive only in the colloquial "J'ai été eu" (I have been had) in the sense of 'swindled'.		* NB: The verb "avoir" is used in the passive only in the colloquial "J'ai été eu" (I have been had) in the sense of 'swindled'.



	{{French-Grammar-Course-Menu}}		{{French-Grammar-Course-Menu}}
			<span links></span>

Vincent: /* Other Chapters */

2021-12-11T12:49:18Z

Other Chapters

← Older revision		Revision as of 14:49, 11 December 2021
Line 47:		Line 47:


	~~==Other Chapters==~~
	{{French-Grammar-Course-Menu}}		{{French-Grammar-Course-Menu}}

Vincent at 17:52, 10 December 2021

2021-12-10T17:52:04Z

← Older revision		Revision as of 19:52, 10 December 2021
Line 16:		Line 16:
	Example:		Example:
	*Nos amis construisent une maison.		*Nos amis construisent une maison.
	Our friends are building a house.		<blockquote>Our friends are building a house.</blockquote>→ By reversal, the passive voice presents the subject as an agent undergoing the action.

	→ By reversal, the passive voice presents the subject as an agent undergoing the action.

	Example:		Example:
	*Une maison est construite par nos amis.		*Une maison est construite par nos amis.
	A house is built by our friends.		<blockquote>A house is built by our friends.</blockquote>

	===The Direct Object===		===The Direct Object===
	The direct object complement (French: le complément d'objet direct, COD) directly completes the verb without any preposition. The verb used with a COD is a direct transitive verb.		The direct object complement (French: le complément d'objet direct, COD) directly completes the verb without any preposition. The verb used with a COD is a direct transitive verb.
Line 36:		Line 35:
	For example, the verb "Aimer" has a direct object and can be turned into a sensible passive:		For example, the verb "Aimer" has a direct object and can be turned into a sensible passive:
	*Jule aime Marie		*Jule aime Marie
	Jule loves Marie		<blockquote>Jule loves Marie</blockquote>
	*Marie est aimée par Jule		*Marie est aimée par Jule
	Marie is loved by Jule		<blockquote>Marie is loved by Jule</blockquote>However, the verb "lire" produces a less natural sentence in the passive voice.


	However, the verb "lire" produces a less natural sentence in the passive voice.
	*Il lit ce livre		*Il lit ce livre
	He is reading this book		<blockquote>He is reading this book</blockquote>
	*Ce livre est lu par lui 🤔 (???)		*Ce livre est lu par lui 🤔 (???)
	This book is being read by him		<blockquote>This book is being read by him</blockquote>


	Usually, verbs in the passive voice that make a direct inanimate object a subject and place an animated subject in sentence with "par" or "de" are not natural.		Usually, verbs in the passive voice that make a direct inanimate object a subject and place an animated subject in sentence with "'''par'''" or "'''de'''" are not natural.
	* NB: The verb "avoir" is used in the passive only in the colloquial "J'ai été eu" (I have been had) in the sense of 'swindled'.		* NB: The verb "avoir" is used in the passive only in the colloquial "J'ai été eu" (I have been had) in the sense of 'swindled'.

Vincent at 17:50, 10 December 2021

2021-12-10T17:50:56Z

← Older revision		Revision as of 19:50, 10 December 2021
Line 2:		Line 2:

	<div style="font-size:200%">Issues in [[Language/French/Grammar/Active-Voice-and-Passive-Voice\|Passive Voice]] resulting from different types of [[Language/French/Grammar/Direct-Object-Complement\|direct objects]]</div>		<div style="font-size:200%">Issues in [[Language/French/Grammar/Active-Voice-and-Passive-Voice\|Passive Voice]] resulting from different types of [[Language/French/Grammar/Direct-Object-Complement\|direct objects]]</div>
			__TOC__

			[CHANGED]



	==Definitions Reminders==		==Definitions Reminders==

Line 29:		Line 35:

	For example, the verb "Aimer" has a direct object and can be turned into a sensible passive:		For example, the verb "Aimer" has a direct object and can be turned into a sensible passive:
			*Jule aime Marie
			Jule loves Marie
			*Marie est aimée par Jule
			Marie is loved by Jule


	*Juliette aime Georges		However, the verb "lire" produces a less natural sentence in the passive voice.
	~~Juliette loves George~~		*Il lit ce livre
			He is reading this book
			*Ce livre est lu par lui 🤔 (???)
			This book is being read by him
	*Georges est aimée par Juliette
	~~George is loved by Juliette~~



	~~but~~ lire produces a less natural sentence:


	*~~Je lis~~ ce livre
	~~I am~~ reading this book


	*Ce livre est lu par ~~moi~~ (???)
	This book is being read by ~~me (???)~~


	~~Usually passives which make an inanimate direct object a subject and put an animate subject in a par or de phrase are unnatural.~~


	NB: The verb avoir is used in the passive only in the colloquial “J'ai été ~~eu”~~ I have been had' in the sense of 'swindled'.		Usually, verbs in the passive voice that make a direct inanimate object a subject and place an animated subject in sentence with "par" or "de" are not natural.
			* NB: The verb "avoir" is used in the passive only in the colloquial "J'ai été eu" (I have been had) in the sense of 'swindled'.


	==Other Chapters==		==Other Chapters==
	{{French-Grammar-Course-Menu}}		{{French-Grammar-Course-Menu}}

Vincent at 17:44, 10 December 2021

2021-12-10T17:44:51Z

@@ Line 1: / Line 1: @@
 [[File:French-Language-PolyglotClub.png|thumb]]
-<div style="font-size:200%"> Problems in the formation of the passive arising from different kinds of direct objects</div>
+<div style="font-size:200%">Issues in [[Language/French/Grammar/Active-Voice-and-Passive-Voice|Passive Voice]] resulting from different types of [[Language/French/Grammar/Direct-Object-Complement|direct objects]]</div>
-Most verbs which have a direct object will convert into a passive, but there are limitations to whether the meaning is sensible or not. Aimer can be turned into a sensible passive:
+Example:

Vincent at 10:10, 5 November 2021

2021-11-05T10:10:50Z

← Older revision		Revision as of 12:10, 5 November 2021
Line 1:		Line 1:
	[[File:French-Language-PolyglotClub.png\|thumb]]		[[File:French-Language-PolyglotClub.png\|thumb]]

	<div style="font-size:~~300~~%"> Problems in the formation of the passive arising from different kinds of direct objects</div>		<div style="font-size:200%"> Problems in the formation of the passive arising from different kinds of direct objects</div>


Line 33:		Line 33:

	NB: The verb avoir is used in the passive only in the colloquial “J'ai été eu” I have been had' in the sense of 'swindled'.		NB: The verb avoir is used in the passive only in the colloquial “J'ai été eu” I have been had' in the sense of 'swindled'.


			==Other Chapters==
			{{French-Grammar-Course-Menu}}

Vincent: Created page with "thumb
Problems in the formation of the passive arising from different kinds of direct objects
..."

2021-11-05T09:32:54Z

Created page with "thumb <div style="font-size:300%"> Problems in the formation of the passive arising from different kinds of direct objects</div>..."

New page

[[File:French-Language-PolyglotClub.png|thumb]]

<div style="font-size:300%"> Problems in the formation of the passive arising from different kinds of direct objects</div>

Most verbs which have a direct object will convert into a passive, but there are limitations to whether the meaning is sensible or not. Aimer can be turned into a sensible passive:

*Juliette aime Georges
Juliette loves George

*Georges est aimée par Juliette
George is loved by Juliette

but lire produces a less natural sentence:

*Je lis ce livre
I am reading this book

*Ce livre est lu par moi (???)
This book is being read by me (???)

Usually passives which make an inanimate direct object a subject and put an animate subject in a par or de phrase are unnatural.

NB: The verb avoir is used in the passive only in the colloquial “J'ai été eu” I have been had' in the sense of 'swindled'.